india, alternative medicine. herbal remedies and massage. >> that's right. we did herbal medicine for five weeks. six guys massaged my shoulder with warm oil every day. it worked. more movement and less pain out of it. and the japanese insurance system would have paid for that. they paid for acupuncturacupunc shots -- japan covers everything. that's the broadest choice of any health care system i have ever seen. >> i want to ask you what lessons you can take away from some of the counselries on how we can make health care better in the united states. we're dealing with a much larger and diverse population. >> all of the countries cover everybody with high quality. they spend half as much as we do. i'm looking for that -- how do you do that? it's not all socialized medicine. a lot of countries, germany, netherlands, france, japan. private docs, private hospitals, private insurance. they cover everybody. >> what's the difference? >> in the first place, the insurance companies are much nicer. they cover everybody. they have to pay every claim. in switzerland, t